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====== CIP Technical Steering Committee Meeting ======

Date: 01 October 2018

===== Roll Call =====

TSC members

  * Attendees
    * Yoshi Kobayashi (Toshiba) (Representative) (Voting) - Chair
    * Hidehiro Kawai (Hitachi) (Representative) (Voting)
    * Hiroshi Mine (Hitachi)
    * Masashi Kudo (Cybertrust)
    * Nobuhiro Iwamatsu (Cybertrust)  (Representative)
    * Masato Minda (Plat’Home) (Representative)
    * Takehisa Katayama (Renesas) (Representative) (Voting)
    * Chris Paterson (Renesas)
    * SZ Lin (MOXA) (Representative)
    * Daniel Sangorrin (Toshiba)
    * Agustin Benito Bethencourt (Codethink) (Representative)

===== Discussions =====

==== Issues ====

  * CIP mailman doesn’t work on 1st October. :(
    * Yoshi has already asked the LF
  * CIP marked table cloth need cleaning
    * (Yoshi) Can I charge to the LF? or LF Japan?
      * I can get receipt only in Japanese.
  * 


==== Cyber Security Standard (IEC62443-4-2) ====

  * Renesas (Katayama-san) is working on this topic to create a proposal to CIP.
    * He will explain it in F2F
    * Also preparing some materials for CIP session
  * Toshiba is planning to start a new project on this topic from October. (Need to confirm with internal developers)
  * 

==== Event participation (ELCE) ====

  * Schedule
    * General information
      * 22-24 October
      * 21st Oct (Sun): CIP F2F meeting
        * From 10 or 9am to 5pm (include CIP board meeting)
    * Kernel maintenance team meeting (during the ELCE)
  * ELCE 2018 kernel maintainers meeting?
    * The LF proposed to have the meeting on 25th, but most of the maintainer cannot attend on 25th because of conflict with other meetings.
      * Jeff is working to book a room for the meeting, during the conference.
      * 
  * Demo
    * Renesas demo (New demo using docker)
    * Plat’home IoT
    * Whitepaper (Wolfgang)
    * Panel (Daniel)
  * Talks
    * Urs and Yoshi will have a talk at OSSE
    * Ralf Ramsauer, Jan and Wolfgang  have a talk (not really CIP related)
    * Kazu has a talk  (might be related to CIP Core)
    * Anything else?
  * Ticket
    * 6+2 tickets for CIP members
    * AI(Jeff): Ask CIP members for tickets
      * Already used 5 tickets.
      * Codethink requested a ticket for Ben H. Approved.
      * Renesas requested a second ticket as well.
      * Plat’Home needs a ticket for Masato Minda with a demo.
      * AI: How about Daniel W. (Need to be confirmed.)
  * TSC meeting
    * Schedule: (Still checking the availability of rooms)
      * Starts:
      * Ends: 
      * Room:
    * Agenda: check below

=== Upcoming TSC F2F meeting ===

  * Embedded World
    * 

==== CIP kernel ====

=== CIP kernel IRC meeting ===

  * AI: Create a wiki page for collaboration (SZ Lin)
    * [[https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/linux-4.4.y|https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/linux-4.4.y]]
  * AI: Discuss patchwork item in TSC meeting (Chris)
    * Example: [[https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-renesas-soc/list/|https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-renesas-soc/list/]]

AI(Chris): make sure what things to be done to use patchworks

How to add a project to patchwork: https://korg.wiki.kernel.org/userdoc/patchwork


=== CIP kernel-next ===

== Version ==

  * Align with next LTS and Debian
  * (9/17) Does anyone know what Kernel Debian will be using? Or when they will make a decision?
    * Debian makes no announcement but as part of the release.
    * The conversation originally has not started.
    * Ben H. will propose 4.19, as stated in cip-dev
  * (10/1) Info: Debian kernel team meeting
    * on Tuesday 02/10 at 6h30 p.m UTC. It will take place on
#debian-kernel on IRC.
    * [[https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-kernel@lists.debian.org/msg112588.html|https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-kernel@lists.debian.org/msg112588.html]]
    * Ben seems to plan to attend.
    * AI(Agustin): Ask Ben after the above meeting.


==== CIP Testing ====

  * [ACTION] We need a maintainer of the KernelCI service.
    * Currently, there are no CIP administrators for either server. Ideally member companies should do this. One admin? Or multiple admins?
  * (9/3)
    *  Distributed testing
      * KernelCI: [[https://kernelci.ciplatform.org/|https://kernelci.ciplatform.org/]]
      * Lava Master: [[https://lava.ciplatform.org/|https://lava.ciplatform.org/]]
      * Both of the above installations have default content. We need to personalise the servers for CIP.
      * B@D needs to be updated to submit results to KernelCI server.
      * Remote LAVA Labs need to be integrated into the Lava master.
    * For B@D updates please follow the [[https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/civilinfrastructureplatform/journal|journal]].
    * Some results will have ELCE depending on accounts on LAVA
    * One day after ELCE, Automated testing Summit will be held
      * Key persons will attend
      * Daniel tries to get feedback for CIP testing (e.g.How to test more effective way).
  * (10/1)
    * For ELC-E, we should have a working LAVA lab at Renesas UK, containing the RZ/G iWave boards.

==== CIP Core ====

  * No updates last two weeks

==== EdgeX/CIP Core ====

  * You can try to use EdgeX on CIP Core
    * [[https://gitlab.com/cip-playground/edgex-cip/meta-edgex-cip|https://gitlab.com/cip-playground/edgex-cip/meta-edgex-cip]]
  * The first milestone was DONE.
  * What’s next? 

==== Reproducible builds ====

  * Jeff is working on this contract.

==== Topics for CIP F2F meeting ====

  * CIP Core next (Alignment with Debian?)
  * Cybersecurity standard (IEC62443)
  * New topics?
    * System update (Do we need to support this?)
      * E.g. 
        * Beyond LTS?
        * How can we update between our LTS version?
          * 4.4 -> 5.16
        * Continuous update
          * 4.4.1 -> 4.4.2 -> 4.4.3
    * License cleaning
  * Testing infrastructure
  * F2F meeting dates and location around Embedded World.
  * Collaboration with Safety Linux Initiative from the Linux Foundation.
  * Presentation from Codethink: BuildStream: [[http://www.buildstream.build|http://www.buildstream.build]] (10 min)

==== Other topics? ====

  * SZ
    * Debian 10 will be freeze 2019 January.
    *  2019-01-12 - Transition freeze
    *  2019-02-12 - Soft-freeze
    *  2019-03-12 - Full-freeze
    * [[https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/09/msg00004.html|https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/09/msg00004.html]]
    *
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