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| - | ===== CHAOSS BoF at Open Source Summit North America 2017 ===== | + | [[chaoss:metrics:minutes:2017-07-11-meeting|/chaoss/metrics/2017-07-11-meeting]] |
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| - | * We have a 40 minute session on Monday, September 11 from 5:40pm to 6:20pm - http://sched.co/BCsP | + | |
| - | * What is our goal for the BoF and how do we want to structure the BoF? | + | |
| - | * We don't know how many people will show up but hope to have 10-15 attendees | + | |
| - | * We want to focus on the value metric "Growth - Maturity - Decline" | + | |
| - | * Potentially ask participants to prioritize the activity metrics within the value metric | + | |
| - | * Look at metric with regards to gaming and value | + | |
| - | * Include a short introduction to the CHAOSS group, but we only have 40 minutes | + | |
| - | * Goal: increase interest in our group and recruit more participants | + | |
| - | * Maybe use the 40 minutes to identify priorities of the value metric and then have follow-up workshop the following days for a deep dive | + | |
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| - | ===== CHAOSS Kick-Off Meeting ===== | + | |
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| - | * Meeting for initial members of governing board | + | |
| - | * 2-hour meeting | + | |
| - | * Start to structure group and processes | + | |
| - | * Get to know everyone, face-to-face | + | |
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| - | ===== Discussion about Metrics ===== | + | |
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| - | * CNCF defined a velocity metric | + | |
| - | * Repository for the code: https://github.com/cncf/velocity | + | |
| - | * Result from analysis: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hD-hXlVT60AGhGVifNn7nNo9oVMKnIoQ2kBNmx-YY8M/edit#gid=1381312348 | + | |
| - | * Very interesting approach | + | |
| - | * We would need to know more about why CNCF created this metric and for what purpose | + | |
| - | * The activity metric might not be very informative about how much value any project provides | + | |
| - | * The activity metrics, such as issues, can be gamed and are not necessarily reliable | + | |
| - | * Comparing comparable communities will be one way to make sense of metrics | + | |
| - | * But the communities need to be of similar size, maturity state, type ... | + | |
| - | * The recently joined libraries.io project has data on the OSS ecosystem, including upstream dependencies and downstream uses | + | |
| - | * The OpenStack community has experience with metrics and how they can be gamed | + | |
| - | * Metrics might always be gamed, and we need to be open about it | + | |
| - | * Maybe, we can provide with each metric a disclaimer about known ways that a metric has been gamed or misappropriated before | + | |
| - | * When metrics are gamed, a hard reset and change of used metrics may be needed | + | |
| - | * The gamability of metrics needs to be part of the CHAOSS metrics discussion | + | |
| - | * Metrics may not only be used to determine value or use, but can also be used by steering committees to steer activities supported by metrics | + | |
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| - | ===== Updates ===== | + | |
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| - | * The University of Missouri and University of Nebraska at Omaha are working on a visualization of the 'Growth - Maturity - Decline' metric | + | |
| - | * A Google Summer of Code project with the SPDX group is looking at license health | + | |
| - | * The CII Best Practices Badge may be interested in our metrics work | + | |
| - | * Potentially the best practices can inform work on the metrics | + | |
| - | * The Badge might incorporate metrics as criteria | + | |
| - | * We will connect with the CII group | + | |
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| - | ===== Attendance ===== | + | |
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| - | (alphabetical by first name) | + | |
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| - | * Derek Howard | + | |
| - | * Georg Link | + | |
| - | * Kate Stewart | + | |
| - | * Kevin Lumbard | + | |
| - | * Matt Germonprez | + | |
| - | * Peter Monks | + | |
| - | * Ray Paik | + | |
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