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Meeting Minutes 2017-06-06

Start 13:03; End: 13:28 (CT)

How to encourage more industry engagement on our monthly call?

  • We are reaching out to other foundations.
  • Does it make sense to include more traditional industry?
    • yes, Intel e.g. has diversity initiatives
    • Based on our conversations, industry people are interested in metrics, especially in the technical community
  • Does it make sense to approach and invite individual people?
    • We want to coordinate who contacts whom, to not overload people
    • Kate and Matt will coordinate the outreach

CHAOSS Governance document

  • For the most part, the governance document is finished
  • We would like other foundations to give input, to make the initiative a true industry-wide effort
    • Kate is contacting other foundations
  • We don't know yet if the tool side (CHAOSS Tool Committee) has signed off on the governance document
    • No major items appear to be outstanding

Advancing the four initial metrics

  • Linux Con / OSS Summit: Proposal is put in to have a workshop for the value-driven metric “Project Growth - Maturity - Decline”
  • What is the way forward?
    • Missouri is actively working on implementing it
      • Is there a way for sharing even a rough draft with the group?
      • A mockup will be sent to the mailing list for discussion, in advance to OSS Summit
      • Assumption is that people will not trust the metrics:
      • The challenge is to make metrics trustable,
      • E.g. find similar project to focal project and compare the, for example, starting phase…
      • Radar graph is one approach, another is using a baseline
  • Wiki looks much better.
    • How do you minimize the many individual metrics on the maturity value-driven metric
    • Maybe do this during the OSS Summit
  • How do we carve a path, so that people can start believing or disbelieving metrics?
    • “Integrate early and often” perspective drove above question
      • We are very interested in figuring out, what the metrics could be,
      • The code Committee and Missouri are two tooling groups that instantiate the metrics
      • The people can then use the instantiations as a way to understand the metrics
    • OPNFV has been working with Bitergia for 2+ years. There is plenty of data to start piloting with the OPNFV community.

Future events to target

  • Are there are other events that we want to target? Non-LF events?
    • OSCON in Austin … there is a community manager track (was in May 2017)
      • Bitergia is involved there, and there is a metrics track
      • Maybe take part in the pre-conference event by Bitergia where they do a full day of metrics: GrimoireCon North America
    • FOSDEM in Brussels (February)
      • CFP is in November for February, speakers are notified around Christmas
      • Bitergia is hosting the GrimoireCon Europe prior to FOSDEM
    • Mining Software Repositories (ACM Conference/Workshop)
      • Was in Argentina last year, maybe next year.
      • Is more academic oriented

Miscellaneous

  • Next meeting will be July 11 (4th of July is a U.S. national holiday)

Attendance

(alphabetical by first name)

  • Derek Howard
  • Georg Link
  • Kevin Lumbard
  • Matt Germonprez
  • Matt Levy
  • Peter Monks
  • Ray Pike
  • Sean Goggins
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