Start 13:00; End: 13:45

• We have a 40 minute session on Monday, September 11 from 5:40pm to 6:20pm - http://sched.co/BCsP
• What is our goal for the BoF and how do we want to structure the BoF?
• We don't know how many people will show up but hope to have 10-15 attendees
• We want to focus on the value metric “Growth - Maturity - Decline”
  • Potentially ask participants to prioritize the activity metrics within the value metric
  • Look at metric with regards to gaming and value
• Include a short introduction to the CHAOSS group, but we only have 40 minutes
• Goal: increase interest in our group and recruit more participants
  • Maybe use the 40 minutes to identify priorities of the value metric and then have follow-up workshop the following days for a deep dive

• Meeting for initial members of governing board
• 2-hour meeting
• Start to structure group and processes
• Get to know everyone, face-to-face

• CNCF defined a velocity metric
  • Repository for the code: https://github.com/cncf/velocity
  • Result from analysis: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hD-hXlVT60AGhGVifNn7nNo9oVMKnIoQ2kBNmx-YY8M/edit#gid=1381312348
  • Very interesting approach
  • We would need to know more about why CNCF created this metric and for what purpose
  • The activity metric might not be very informative about how much value any project provides
    • The activity metrics, such as issues, can be gamed and are not necessarily reliable
  • Comparing comparable communities will be one way to make sense of metrics
    • But the communities need to be of similar size, maturity state, type …
• The recently joined libraries.io project has data on the OSS ecosystem, including upstream dependencies and downstream uses
• The OpenStack community has experience with metrics and how they can be gamed
  • Metrics might always be gamed, and we need to be open about it
  • Maybe, we can provide with each metric a disclaimer about known ways that a metric has been gamed or misappropriated before
  • When metrics are gamed, a hard reset and change of used metrics may be needed
  • The gamability of metrics needs to be part of the CHAOSS metrics discussion
• Metrics may not only be used to determine value or use, but can also be used by steering committees to steer activities supported by metrics

• The University of Missouri and University of Nebraska at Omaha are working on a visualization of the 'Growth - Maturity - Decline' metric
• A Google Summer of Code project with the SPDX group is looking at license health
• The CII Best Practices Badge may be interested in our metrics work
  • Potentially the best practices can inform work on the metrics
  • The Badge might incorporate metrics as criteria
  • We will connect with the CII group

(alphabetical by first name)

• Derek Howard
• Georg Link
• Kate Stewart
• Kevin Lumbard
• Matt Germonprez
• Peter Monks
• Ray Paik